User talk:Quangdat201

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Please help translate to your language

--Zyephyrus (talk) 19:22, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Publication data are needed for your contributions here

Hello, Quangdat201!

I have noticed that you are doing a lot of work related to languages of Russia and former USSR. That, as in general, looks good, but if you want to be a highly reputed and trusted contributor of Wikisource, you should know, that when you publish a work on Wikisource, it is strongly recommended to put publication data of the work in the work's header — that is, to indicate the book (or magazine / newspaper issue if the work was published so) where the work was first published (and if you publish a version of the work different from the first publication — it is recommedned to indicate the publication data of that version too). Many language-Wikisources strictly require it, and a work is being deleted in those Wikisources if it is not properly marked with its publication data. The multilingual Wikisource doesn't require it as strongly necessary, but it is strongly recommended to do so. The main reason why it is required/recommended is the copyright issues. I'll try to explain:

1. The fact, that for some specific work the specific count of years (for example 70 years as for many European countries) has passed since the death of the author of the work, is not sufficient to claim that work as being in public domain. If some work of that author was published after the author's death (i.e. posthumously), then, according to laws of many countries, the count of years from the publishing year is also taken in account. So, for countries with 70-year copyright protection term, even if author died more than 70 years ago but the work itself was first published later than 70 years ago, then the work is still copyrighted. So, for evaluating of public domain status of the work, not only the year of the author's death is needed, but also we need the year when the work was published first.

Especially that comes in play for authors on which you are working here — the authors of the former Soviet Union and fomer Russian Empire. Many of those authors lived and wrote their works in the time of the Russian Empire, in which publishing works in small national languages different from Russian was generally discouraged, and in some cases — even strictly prohibited. Only after the fall of the Russian Empire and the October Revolution of 1917, in the Soviet Union, it became possible to publish freely works in any of Soviet Union's languages. So in some cases original author's works were forbidden from being published for many years, and were conservated in the form of manuscripts, and were published much later, in some cases — even posthumously. It is known that many of those works were published in the Soviet Union in the 1930-s years, however we cannot be sure that they all were published in that time — probably some of them were published much later — probably even in the 2000-s years. So the publication date is required, and this date can be derived from the publication data (the year when the book / magazine / newspaper containing this work was published).

2. Also, the year indicated in the work itself (for example, 1924 in one page) also does not say anything about public domain, because that year is the year when the works was written, not published. The creation date usually does not matter for defining the copyright status, usually only the publication year matters, which is indicated in the publishing data of the work.

So, if you have taken some works of some author from some modern anthology of that author, based on the idea that the 70-year (or some other, depending on country) PMA term has expired, then it is not the suffucient reason to immediately publish them here — you also need to know when the work was published first, and became sure that the 70-year term (or other term as required by the laws of the country) has elapsed — not only the author's death — but also from the year when the work was published first (which could be after the author's death). So, in my opinion, you should:

1. Stop publishing works here without providing publication data in the header of works, and start putting that data from this moment.

2. Find some time and indicate the publication data on all the pages which you have added previously.

Otherwise it is possible in some future, that if some work added by you has proven to be not PD, then all your contributions where the publication data are not marked can be considered dubious and possible copyright violation, and this can end with massive deletion of all results of your working here (except, maybe, the author's pages themselves). I think, such deletion is not the desired result of your many efforts put here by you to Wikisource, isn't it? Regards, --Nigmont (talk) 18:01, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you

I am wholly unsure how deletions work here. Even getting as far as I got was 'hard'. Thank you for completing the listing of Oviul maruf Timtrent (talk) 15:22, 28 November 2024 (UTC)